The Estate Agent Consultancy Podcast
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The Estate Agent Consultancy Podcast
The Most “Bridget Jones” Estate Agent in the UK - Sarah Hood
In this episode, I’m joined by Sarah Hood, the Area Sales and Lettings Manager at Belvoir!, a regional advocate for Women in Estate Agency, and a mentor with Agents Together. She’s got an incredible career journey, a passion for mentoring and supporting other agents, and—if that wasn’t enough—she’s also training for the Hampton Court Half Marathon in March 2025! 🏃♀️🎽
We cover:
🔹 How Sarah got into estate agency and what first attracted her to the industry
🔹 Her experience at Roman’s Group—was it really as great as people say?
🔹 What led her to Belvoir!, and what her role involves day-to-day
🔹 The importance of Women in Estate Agency and the value of networking events
🔹 Can men attend WIEA regional events? (Spoiler: It’s not just for women!)
🔹 Why mentorship matters in estate agency and the most common struggles agents face
🔹 Her upcoming charity half marathon—and the story behind her viral running-in-pants promotional video!
hello and welcome back to the podcast. I've got someone with me today who'll be no stranger to social media and describes herself as the most bridget jones estate agent in the uk, which we're going to find out more today. Uh, sarah, welcome to the podcast thank you for having me, chris. It's quite a treat absolutely a treat for you and for me as well. So for those that don't know, share a bit of a background of your journey into estate agency. So what first attracted you into the world of property?
Speaker 2:so I have always had a bit of a fascination. I was the child that, instead of watching kids shows, I was watching, like, property programs, your homes under the hammers, your location, location, locations, your grand designs. With my parents, and you know, from the age of seven, I was critiquing people's kitchens as if I could do so much better, right, um, and you know, oh, I definitely go with house number three. That was definitely the best house. Um, that was what I loved doing. And then I was at university doing a photography degree of all things, and I thought I could just do a bit of part-time viewings. I could do that on a Saturday rather than working in a supermarket, which I've been doing for several years prior to that. That might be a bit more interesting.
Speaker 2:Um, so I applied for a job at Romans in Wokingham, now part of the LRG group, which it wasn't then, because that's how long ago it was um, and I was doing weekends there for a couple of years. Then, when my degree finished, I thought I could do this full time for a bit before I become the next David baby, and I just never left. I spent nine years there, which was crazy really that it just went by like that. So most of my 20s I spent with Romans and I loved it for so so many years. 20s I spent with Romans and I loved it for so, so many years.
Speaker 2:And it came to a point where I just thought I've never really done anything else and I've worked anywhere else. Um, I then was approached to go and join a startup company well, not a startup, but you know, a very small new business and for a couple of reasons I wasn't the right fit for them. They weren't the right fit for me, and I've made my peace with that ever since. And then an opportunity at Belfort came up which is, you know, kind of more similar, I suppose, to the Romans LRG dynamic of being a multi-branch organisation, but where it's franchised, it's all individually owned and individually run, so there is a sense of autonomy that comes with that, which is quite nice, and I've been here for the last 18 months or so, which has been delightful.
Speaker 1:I never knew we had so much in common, by the way, because I was planning on doing a photography degree at university as well and also mugged that off pretty quickly.
Speaker 2:Look where it's got me. My mum always said do business instead, that will serve you so much better.
Speaker 1:And I was like nah I think your mum was on something. In hindsight I think she might have, she might have known, but um, so we've got a lot of people in common with regard to the roman side of things as well. So everyone I know that worked at romans at that sort of period, always like romans was the best company, it was the best training, it was the best culture, it was amazing sort of thing, is it. Is it? Was it like worth the hype back then?
Speaker 2:100. I think that there's still so much of the the old values, like the hardcore values that romans had. You know the phone must be answered within two rings. You stand up and greet everyone as soon as they walk in the door. Um, you know the clear desk policy which personally I never subscribed to, but you know I'll get them all. You know our values I still hold now.
Speaker 2:So the initial training was incredible and you know I was a Saturday person. I was taken out on three, four viewings and then said here's the jailer of keys off. You go for the rest of the diary, and so it really was like a baptism of fire and doing your Saturday, you're not there in the week to see what's changing, see what's let, what hasn't let, and I was exclusively doing lettings at this point. So every weekend was like a surprise and I learned to wing it. Well, I'd say and I think you have got to be a bit, you know, adaptable it's probably the professional word we'd use rather than wing it to just be able to just go out. Be, you know, relatively logical with what you. You know your answers to the questions that tenants are asking and landlords are asking, but you know picking stuff up as you go at the same time was definitely good fun and a good challenge in those initial years.
Speaker 1:I think you nailed it when you said winging it. I think we're all winging it. I, even still in my life, I'm still winging it. At nearly 40 years old, I presume I will be winging it another 40.
Speaker 2:I've, um, I will, yeah, I mean ever since school um, my report cards, my one-to-one cards forms have always said no attention to detail. Um, great talker can talk forever um great people skills, but you know, poor attention span no attention to detail, um, and that's always been seen as like a negative. But then if you flip it actually on the you know, on that flip side, I, I can be quite adaptable I suppose. And yeah, winging it has gotten me this far.
Speaker 1:So absolutely welcome. Welcome to estate agency. Talk the talk and walk the walk, absolutely so. So tell me what you're a area sales and lettings manager, aren't you a belvoir? So talk me through sort of what that involves and sort of the day-to-day.
Speaker 2:I basically do a little bit of everything, which I've been really enjoying, actually. So I am the primary lister for the office, so it's my job to find and then list properties for sales and to let, and up until 18 months ago I had exclusively done lettings. So sales is something again. I've had to wing it and learn um without a great deal of tuition, if you like, and you know podcasts like this, this and Simon's podcast because unfortunately other podcasts do exist have really helped me to learn those sorts of extra sort of skills that sales is more involved than lettings in many ways.
Speaker 2:So I also do a lot of marketing, the marketing design, all of the social media. I do a bit of property management, a bit of sales progression, a bit of marketing, the marketing design, all of the social media. Um, I do a bit of property management, a bit of sales progression, a bit of negotiating some viewings. Basically, if there's a role doing it, I do a bit of it um, and I have a wonderful team around me who do the bulk of those extra bits um and are incredible at what they do, and I'm very lucky to have them so talk me through then.
Speaker 1:So how did it? How did it end up with you being a regional advocate with the women in estate agency? How did that come into sort of play?
Speaker 2:again. That was a bit of a an imposter syndrome moment I had. I alluded to sort of that, that period where it hadn't quite worked out with the other business, that I left Romans to go and join, and that was a very low period in my life where, you know, my career had been everything. I'd spent nine years building something and I'd left it. I'd left the safety net of my little Romans career to take this jump and it hadn't quite worked.
Speaker 2:I kind of crash landed a bit and I found that the women in that group were just so uplifting and so supportive and always had a solution to the problem and there is a no stupid question policy in in the group. And just by almost having like a virtual hug of people around you just to sort of put you back up on your feet, I put a post in there saying look, I'm a bit stuck. I need new role pdq. Um, you know I've got rent to pay and everything else. Um, this quite hasn't quite worked out.
Speaker 2:And I just felt this, this embrace of people saying have you tried this? Have you spoken to this recruiter? Have you considered this? You will be fine, don't worry. Sometimes the best things happen in these situations and I have to agree that it was a very good with hindsight, of course, not in that moment. With hindsight, it was, you know, a good moment for me to be able to learn to pick myself back up again, which I've had to do a couple of times again since um, and that group has just been so fundamental in changing my mindset in that sort of regard as well and also being able to pay it forward. So I specifically look out for posts from people who are in that sort of position now and make sure that I pay that experience forward so that you know there's people just don't feel alone. It's lovely.
Speaker 1:Do you think that estate agency and obviously lettings would fall into this as well is generally a fairly lonely-ish business, you know, because obviously you're sort of on the front line every day and you hear no a fair amount of time, just some sort of you know, doing the job correctly, you should hear no quite a lot. Do you feel that sort of plays into that sort of negative stereotype sort of mindset? Sometimes it kind of feels like you're being slightly kicked when you're down, or how have you, what's your experience been on that side?
Speaker 2:it can be and people say like with you know, with any sort of job role you've got to have a thick skin. But I'd argue, actually having a thin skin is better, because I think you need to stay in touch with your emotive side much more than you need to shield from it. And you know, by having a thick skin you can deflect. You know, that's not my problem. Oh, they chose another agent. Because when, actually, if you have a thin skin, you can, you know, you can feel it and you can have that introspective moment where you sort of you look and you think, okay, what actually could I have done better in that moment to secure that business, or to get that extra bit of um fee out of somebody, or to make that deal go better or stop it falling out of bed altogether, um, so by having introspection, you know, not necessarily a beating up of yourself, which I think there's a big difference between having a moment of introspection and a moment of beating yourself up.
Speaker 2:You're able to sort of keep steady, whilst also making sure that you're continuing to learn as well. And I think I think you're right when you say that this can be a very lonely business. And certainly, as've you know, when I first started I was in a big team of five or six negotiators, so there was five or six friendly competitors, but also five or six equals all in the same team. And then you know, as you become then sort of a lister, there's only maybe one or two of you at that level. Then you become the assistant manager, the manager, and all of a sudden you're up here at this I hate the expression, but almost like a pyramid sat at the top and there's almost no one at your level anymore. That's like your peer. So by having going back to the women estate agency piece, by again having a group like that, means that you just don't feel that loneliness, perhaps quite so much as you would have done otherwise so, outside of the support obviously women estate agency bring to sort of each other.
Speaker 1:Why else do you think that groups like women estate agency are important for the industry as a whole?
Speaker 2:that is an incredible question and there are so many examples, sadly, of women who have either been overlooked or undermined or, quite frankly, abused in this industry because people think we're an easy target, or because it was a male-dominated industry previously, or for a catalogue of heinous other reasons catalogue of heinous other reasons. So I think you know and again, the women in the stage in, it's not about making sure that we have, you know, a voice instead of men or bringing men down the level. It's about making sure we're all raised and all improved and we all have the capacity to share our own experiences in our own voice, which often isn't the case. And if you look at, you know I'll use Romans as an example. I've loved working at Romans, but you know it has its corporate problems, in sales in particular, at the moment, I believe, there is only one female sales manager. There are no female listeners in sales, one female sales manager. There are no female listers in sales and even in lettings, which was always considered the girlier, um, the girlier side of the business. You know it's a bit easier, it's a bit girlier. You know girls do letting you know the macho men do sales it's, you know, that's just how it felt at the time, certainly when I started. Um, you know, a lot of the property management, the admin, the sales progression side are female. Not so many of the property management, the admin, the sales progression side are female. Not so many of the branch front end staff are, and I think that there is absolutely a need to advocate for women to be promoted into those roles and to have the confidence to apply for those roles in the first place.
Speaker 2:Um, there's a book and I can't remember the exact statistics. In fact it is in front of me. I might quickly have a scan through. Um, it's called why men win at work. In fact I am going to grab it out of my pile now and show it to you. Got a pile of books that my phone's propped up against and this just happens to be in it.
Speaker 2:Um, why men win at work, and in this book there is a statistic to suggest that if a woman reads um adult advertisement and they don't meet, say, all five of the necessary criteria, then they just won't apply for it, whereas a man naturally probably would, and I think that that is a cultural thing that's been ingrained, probably since childhood, for reasons that you know. A psychologist could probably unpack a lot better than me, um, but it's about, as I've said, sort of advocating for women to have that confidence and, to the frankly, to men, to have the conscious to conscious bias to allow, you know, women to have that seat at the table as well, which I think is so easy just to not do because there is that unconscious bias already.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, great, so talk me through your regional events then. So I'm going to ask you a question now, which, um, I've wanted to ask for a while, but I've always thought I'd feel stupid asking it, so instead I'm gonna ask on my own.
Speaker 1:No, no, there's no stupid questions well, in front of a few thousand people. Um, can men attend these events? I know you do the regional events. I think there's one in reading a little while ago can like guys come along or is it like women only? What's the sort of? What's the rules there?
Speaker 2:so I'm personally in favor of men coming, much like the conference. I think the conference, whilst it's called women in estate agency, is absolutely for everyone, and I think the male attendance last year was about 25 percent of all the tickets sold, which was so, so, so good, and I think it's due to be higher this year, which is amazing because ideally, I think what the committee and certainly us would like is there to almost be a 50 50 split of men attending um. So for me, my regional events, um, I personally am happy for fellows and men to come um some of the gals I mean, you have to ask them what, what they particularly want to do um, some are promoting it purely as a women in business type networking event. Um, for, again, I think, for women to feel they've got that safe space that they can come uninterrupted and unjudged. But for me personally, I'm happy for anyone to come.
Speaker 1:Really, like cool, I'd love to see you there more, merrier, really because I think, for for me as a, I'll talk as the token guy on the video call, if that's okay. Um, I think, as I'm looking in, I think that I look, that's what I'm thinking. Wow, that looks really great, I'd love to come to it. Like I see the stuff that, um, claire does and joe does and they're trying to think I'd love to go to that sort of stuff, something. But I'm like I don't want to be that guy who turns up and they're like, oh, my god, chris has come. I don't want to be that guy. So okay, so we sort of think maybe it's sort of the depends I think it varies.
Speaker 2:So there's there's things that they do that are exclusively for women, for example, their female leadership training that they rolled out in the last year, which has been sponsored by Rightmove, which is amazing. That is specifically giving women the skills that they might be lacking to proceed through management, which is sort of what I was alluding to before, and to feel, you know, stronger in their position of management. Um, so that is exclusively for women. So you can't come to that, I'm afraid.
Speaker 2:Uh, you're very welcome to come to the conference and you know it's people like you and I'll name a few that just spring to mind, like christian byfield, ben madden, who are so pro the group, and it's allies like you that will really help make the difference. Um, because I think it's so easy for men say, oh, that's not my problem, because I've never dismissed a woman off hat or I've never not given a woman a chance, like, fine, I'm sure you probably haven't in your mind, but I think, as to be part of the solution, you need to accept that you're probably unbiasedly part of the problem. Um, and the more allyship and the more awareness that men have around, that, I think, will only be better I think that I'll talk for many men here.
Speaker 1:Um, hopefully that's okay, guys. Um, and that is that. Sometimes it's kind of, yeah, the the uncognitive, the unconscious side of things that you don't actually know. There is a bias there. So, for example, I had megan 18 a little while ago on the podcast and we talked about tiktok and she was talking about, like, the amount of like abuse she'd had on tiktok and the hate and all this sort of stuff, and I was like I've not had a single bad. I think someone called me a melt once. Someone said, oh, what a bunch of melts and I thought that's not too bad, um, but as bad as I've ever had.
Speaker 1:But I was like chatting to megan and she was like I've had this, I've had this and I was like I would never know in a million years that that is the sort of stuff that happens online and sort of the messages you get. From guys point of view. I'm just like, oh, I post every day and it's cool. And everyone's like, oh, hi, chris, and whatever else it might be, that's great. So it's kind of I think some, some side of it is just being blind to it, just never having experienced that firsthand, you're just kind of just very naive to it yeah, I think it can be really wild the sort of commentary that you can get.
Speaker 2:I mean, megan, in particular, has just been so good at continuing, despite the fact that she has had some hideous messages online, and it usually comes either from other women which is really sad or from men. A lot of it will focus not on actually what you're saying or doing, but actually on your appearance as well, which I think is just so in. It's just insane that you know someone could be advocating for whatever it is that you know we're doing online, and the comment actually isn't about what they're saying, it's about how that person looks. Um, and again, there's a lot of stuff that I could spend a long time unpacking on that, which I'll I won't because your listeners will not want to hear all that. But yeah, it's um, it's wild.
Speaker 2:Some of the stuff that you you get and the messages that you get online. I just mad. I mean, I've had linkedin pictures of people's parts of their bodies before on like linkedin messenger or linkedin messaging, whatever it's called, and I just think, why? Why are you sending me that like, especially on linkedin? Like you not know that I can now find out where you work and, like speak to someone about that, like it's just completely wild. But they're just.
Speaker 1:They just feel like there's this permission for this abuse to exist online and I don't get it at all I feel like you know, if, if I feel like I'm quite a, um, okay, I think for me, if someone ever sent something that's something I like my sister, for example, someone sent that picture I would screenshot that picture and send to every person they knew in their contacts, day in, day out. I would then sign up for a I've got free kittens. Here's my phone number sign as well, just because I think it'd be quite funny to do so.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah you deserve pretty much anything that comes your way yeah, if you want some petty revenge.
Speaker 2:Um, I find signing them up to spam emails quite fun. Um, you can also have Jehovah's Witnesses sent to their house to knock at their door if you're not into that sort of thing I know some people are but just little petty revenues like that. Posting them glitter, I think also is quite fun. Oh, I like that. Just an envelope of glitter, great fun.
Speaker 1:Very good, I've never done that, honestly, I've never done it. Yeah, honestly, I never thought it. Yeah, absolutely right, that was not a lot of the mission of guild, obviously no. So when you do your regional events, then what sort of conversations typically come up? So what sort of things are the sort of go-to topics that you normally talk about? The women come forward and say I'm struggling with x or I need some help with y. What are the things?
Speaker 2:yeah, day in, day out it's been a really nice mixed bag of events. I've hosted a few, some have had one or two attendees and actually that's just been a really nice mixed bag of events. I've hosted a few, some have had one or two attendees, and actually that's just been a really nice moment just to really get to know somebody. I hosted a Topgolf event last year and I was driving away to Topgolf and I had a couple of messages saying look, sorry, I can't make it. Kids have been sick or work's overrun or whatever it might be, and these things happen.
Speaker 2:So it just ended up being me and this one other lady who's also called sarah, and we had the best time, just me and her, playing top golf and she was about to start up her own business and we were talking about her plans and her. You know her, her scheme for what she wanted to do and how she was going to set this up and what her values were and sort of about her past, how she'd owned an agency before an ex-husband, and you know, we just got to really really know each other and in fact it was because I became quite good friends with her. She said to me in October last year I'm going to do this half marathon in March. Do you want to do it with me? And I was like, yeah, all right then. Which is all right then, um, which is the topic?
Speaker 1:beautifully, you've absolutely well, I thought that might segue quite nicely, you knew it was coming up because I I looked into my social media a while ago and there was the usual sort of boring stuff of all congratulations, you've had a new job and whatever else may be. Uh, and there was a video of you running around in your pants, so which caught me off guard slightly.
Speaker 2:So tell me all what is going on so, um, as part of women's state agency, we are determined to raise 50 000 pounds for breast cancer now, which was sarah edmondson's charity of choice for this year. And, as we all know, sarah edmondson, who is the most or was rather, unfortunately most wonderful, caring, kind, warm person, um ceo of agents together which is an incredible initiative but also a committee member of women's stations, you know, hosted the previous two um conferences. So so, so brilliantly and so eloquently. Um passed away at the end of last year and that really sort of shook everyone to their core really, because she was such an incredible fighter, incredible advocate, for, you know, never suffered with any um what's the word I'm looking for here? Um, you know, she had complete dignity throughout and it was never, she never sought um a sort of um what's the word I'm looking for? Sorry, this is tough to talk about. Yeah, she just had complete dignity throughout. So we wanted to raise some money for her charity and women's agents for this big target £50,000.
Speaker 2:So I'd signed up to do this half marathon and I thought I could probably raise a couple of hundred quid. I've never run a half marathon before, I've never run 5k before, so I started doing some couch to 5k at the back end of last year and then the weather got really crap and then it started raining and then it, you know, it was Christmas. I had a cold. So my training didn't really begin until January when I thought, oh crap, this side of the new year it actually is quite soon in March, so I should probably get outside and get running. So I realized through January that I was going to need a bit more motivation, probably, and I was mindful that everyone is completely broke in January, myself included. So I didn't start fundraising until February and I'd had some time to think about what I wanted to do and, being a fun social media type person, I knew that I wanted to do something a bit unusual to draw a bit of attention to what I was doing. But ultimately that would still be fun, light-hearted, um, and you know, pull in a few hundred pounds maybe before I did this run to see me on my way, um.
Speaker 2:So I am, as you mentioned at the beginning, I'm enormous fan of bridget jones and in fact I am going to see the fourth one at the cinema this evening, um, which I can't wait for, and there's a scene in the first bridget Jones where she runs after Mark Darcy in the snow and she's wearing a pair of zebra print pants and she finds him out in the street and they have their their moment and it's just the one of the best bits of cinema ever. I thoroughly underrated Shawshank. Redemption, as far as I'm concerned, get in the bin by comparison. Um. So I thought I'm gonna recreate it for fun. I've got a pair of leopard print pants, I've got a tripod. Why can't I just recreate that scene where she, you know, jumps around trying to put her trainers on, runs out the door, um, down the stairs and outside, like fine, I'll do that, why not? Um, so I put it all together and actually I I decided to do it. I'd finally, like said I'm actually just gonna do it. Um, and it only took me about an hour and a half to string all this together with some audio I'd nicked off of YouTube of that actual scene.
Speaker 2:Put it online, thinking, you know, I might, people might think I'm a bit of a dickhead, people might find it a bit funny. I might raise a couple hundred pounds and that might be quite funny. And then by tomorrow afternoon LinkedIn will be back to my start. New job at this corporation. You know, whatever urge you signaling else you want on LinkedIn, and the response I had honestly blew me away.
Speaker 2:I was so thrilled because not only was I raising more money than I expected, I got just over a thousand pounds in 48 hours for Sarah's charity. I had so many messages of like, kindness and support from people I wouldn't necessarily have expected it from either, and actually we talked a moment ago about the hate you can get online. I've had none, and what I did was actually pretty foolish, like I put a video of myself running in my pants on LinkedIn. How insane actually is that when you stop and think about it. But you know, I just thought I'm just going to raise some money come hell or high water, like what will come, will come. If people want to charge me for that, let them. Um, and I'm in my saying yes here as I'm saying yes to doing that so fun I think, really well done you for many things.
Speaker 1:First of all, it's an amazing course. So first of all, well, I'm doing that. I think doing a half marathon is no small fee in any way, shape or form, and probably the biggest thing is actually running outside in the uk in your pants in the middle of winter. I went for a run last night and it was like hat, gloves, trousers, two pairs of socks and whatever else. So the night you went out in your pants, I mean all bowed down.
Speaker 2:So then you're a braver person than I am I mean, I wasn't arrested so I was conscious that everyone. I live in a flat so I wanted to try and obviously not be caught by my neighbours in case they thought I was setting up some sort of weird OnlyFans, or by anyone's ring doorbells outside, because everyone's got ring doorbells now. So I didn't necessarily want to be caught but also, at the same time, I had to give myself permission to not care what people thought, and that in itself was quite freeing, quite liberating in many ways, especially if we go back to what I was saying before about, you know, people's appearance being quite heavily criticized online. I'm mindful that I'm not a size 8 or 10. I am a size 16. And I'm okay with that. I've made peace with the way I look.
Speaker 2:But not everyone will have done and that's their business, not mine. So I think, you know people have said that I'm brave for doing it and you know that's very kind. But I think the message absolutely has to be that Sarah was brave and the women who are facing cancer are brave. I'm perhaps a bit daft and a bit foolish, certainly for attempting to run a hard marathon when I've not even run a 5K before. That might be seen as brave, if not stupid. But you know, the message absolutely for me is I'm not doing this for me, I'm doing it for all of these women who you know I might have breast cancer at some point in the future. I have two boobs. I need to, you know, make sure they're looked after.
Speaker 1:so that's why I'm doing it yeah, I think it's an amazing thing to do so. Um, if anyone wants to support you, sponsor you where, where should they go?
Speaker 2:I have um a just giving page and I will send you the link perfect.
Speaker 1:I'll put it in the show notes. Bang on there so everyone can find them nice as well. And so, um, as a final thing, give us a, um, a teaser for the women in the states anti-conference. So I know it's the 6th of march, it's like grained into my head. I was the early bird ticket, I was in there, got a nice and early sort of thing. So, um, I appreciate you are sealed beyond belief and you can't give away too much sort of thing. Um, what could we, what sort of things can we expect in the day?
Speaker 2:so the day if you've come to a conference before, you will know to pack your tissues. As you correctly said earlier, it is going to be an emotional day. There are going to be some incredible stories from incredible people. Rightmove have put together something quite special and interactive as well, so that when you're not sat listening to incredible speakers, there is something for you to do, and there are some incredible sponsors that I'm sure will put their best foot forward in terms of their showmanship. This year, there is going to be something that I think is personally really important.
Speaker 2:I've talked a lot about women's advocacy here, and I just want to take a minute to talk about men's advocacy as well, because I think it's super important, um, so ben madden, christian byfield and a couple of other fellows are doing a panel discussion on men's you know, men's place in society um, and having a slot for them to discuss what they think the issues men have, particularly things like mental health and all of that stuff that I know you're a big advocate for. I think it's going to be a really, really poignant moment, so I think that's going to be good as well I feel like I'm going to upgrade my tissues to just like an in toilet toilet roll pack, just like oh yeah, bring, bring it, bring it a big bumper pack of new rolls for everybody.
Speaker 1:Throw it about like peanuts of a baseball game, sort of thing. Who wants a toilet roll, sort of thing. There we go 100%. Thank you so much for being on today. Thanks for being so transparent and honest about everything. It's absolutely amazing. I really appreciate it and go start saying an enormous good luck from us on your half marathon. Sounds amazing.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
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